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To Aaron.
A-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-…-ha !!!
Look at him! He speaking on Russian!
I`m also can speak on russian. Look:
Ðàëîâà îëâàð æöäéêóùçø âàáüòñìáüò âûäëîâ-òî íà âàôîäöóù âàîñìþýæä÷ìú âàäàó çóàùöñà âàäàë æçàóö éûôôûû âæëâàóçêù âàäëâ! Ââ àâä äâàëóà âûäæà. ñëûîàñîûäë, òðà-ëÿ-ëÿ! Îáëèêî-ìîðàëå! Õàìî äóðàëÿ! Øîðò ïîáüåðè! Ðóñî òóðèñòî, Ìèõàèë Ñâåòëîâ, öèãåëü-öèãåëü àé ëþ-ëþ.
Âîò ïðèìåðíî òàê ó ìåíÿ îòîáðàæàåòñÿ òâîé òåêñò, Ààðîí. Âîçìîæíî ó ìåíÿ íå òà êîäèðîâêà ñèìâîëîâ. Âîçìîæíî ìîé òåêñò îòîáðàæàåòñÿ òàêæå.

Matt_weird!
Êàê ìíå ïðî÷èòàòü òî, ÷òî íàïèñàë Ààðîí?

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Goodbye, my little freakly four-footed american friends (Dorbie & Corval, deadalive & dbugger, and other motherf_uckers(not only motherf_uckers and all russian mate words (~2000)))!
Breath freely! I leave you all for about two months.

Good-bye, my respect clever “John-Carmacks in future” (Matt_weird, Mete Ciragan, and other cool guys)! Thanks for help and interesting discussion. Bye. Dont forget me. "Ill be back. Asta-lavista, baby. Bang-bang-bang!".

Çý ýíä. Èòñ îë. Çýòñ èò!
Áàñòà! Øàáàø!

¹¹¹¹¹¹¹ Windows:
¹ Êîìïüþòåð ñàìîóíè÷òîæèòñÿ ÷åðåç
¹¹¹¹¹¹¹
5…
4…
3…
2…
1…
Óáåãàé! Ñïàñàéñÿ êòî ìîæåò!

…
Íó âîò, îïÿòü íèêòî íå óñïåë óáåæàòü.

OpenGL - sucks!
Direct3D - 4ever!

Ïî÷åìó àìåðèêàíöû áóäóò áîìáèòü Àíòàðêòèäó:

  1. Ïèíãâèíû íå çàÿâèëè î ïîääåðæêå ÑØÀ,- çíà÷èò, ïîääåðæèâàþò ìåæäóíàðîäíûé òåððîðèçì.
  2. Êðîìå ïèíãâèíîâ â Àíòàðêòèäå íèêòî íå æèâ¸ò,- íàëèöî ýòíè÷åñêèå ÷èñòêè.
  3. Ïèíãâèíû íå óìåþò ãîâîðèòü,- çíà÷èò, íå ñîáëþäàåòñÿ ñâîáîäà ñëîâà.
  4. Ïèíãâèí - ñèìâîë àíòèàìåðèêàíñêîé îïåðàöèîíêè “Ëèíóêñ”.

×òîáû óäàëèòü êîððîçèþ ñ áàòàðåé â àâòîìîáèëå, ïîëåéòå áàòàðåè êîëîé.
-Âî ìíîãèõ øòàòàõ (â ÑØÀ) äîðîæíàÿ ïîëèöèÿ âñåãäà èìååò â ïàòðóëüíîé ìàøèíå 2 ãàëëîíà Êîëû, ÷òîáû ñìûâàòü êðîâü ñ øîññå ïîñëå àâàðèè.
-Ïîëîæèòå â òàðåëêó ñ Êîëîé ñòåéê - è ÷åðåç 2 äíÿ âû åãî òàì íå íàéäåòå.

-×òîáû ïî÷èñòèòü òóàëåò, âûëåéòå áàíêó Êîëû â ðàêîâèíó è… íå ñìûâàéòå â òå÷åíèå ÷àñà. Ëèìîííàÿ êèñëîòà â Êîëå óäàëèò ïÿòíà ñ ôàÿíñà.
-×òîáû óäàëèòü ðæàâûå ïÿòíà ñ õðîìèðîâàííîãî áàìïåðà ìàøèíû, ïîòðèòå áàìïåð ñìÿòûì ëèñòîì àëþìèíèåâîé ôîëüãè, ñìî÷åííûì â Êîëå.
-×òîáû óäàëèòü êîððîçèþ ñ áàòàðåé â àâòîìîáèëå, ïîëåéòå áàòàðåè áàíêîé Êîëû, è êîððîçèÿ èñ÷åçíåò.
-×òîáû ðàñêðóòèòü çàðæàâåâøèé áîëò, ñìî÷èòå òðÿïêó Êîëîé è îáìîòàéòå åþ áîëò íà íåñêîëüêî ìèíóò.
-×òîáû î÷èñòèòü îäåæäó îò çàãðÿçíåíèÿ, âûëåéòå áàíêó Êîëû íà ãðóäó ãðÿçíîé îäåæäû, äîáàâüòå ñòèðàëüíûé ïîðîøîê è ïîñòèðàéòå â ìàøèíå êàê îáû÷íî. Êîëà ïîìîæåò èçáàâèòüñÿ îò ïÿòåí.
-Îíà òàêæå î÷èñòèò ñòåêëà â àâòîìîáèëå îò äîðîæíîé ïûëè.
-Àêòèâíûé èíãðåäèåíò Êîëû - ôîñôîðíàÿ êèñëîòà. Åå ðH ðàâåí 2.8. Çà 4 äíÿ îí ìîæåò ðàñòâîðèòü âàøè íîãòè.
-Äëÿ ïåðåâîçêè êîíöåíòðàòà Êîëû ãðóçîâèê äîëæåí áûòü îáîðóäîâàí ñïåöèàëüíûìè ïîääîíàìè, ïðåäíàçíà÷åííûìè äëÿ âûñîêîêîððîçèîííûõ ìàòåðèàëîâ.
-Äèñòðèáüþòîðû Êîëû óæå 20 ëåò èñïîëüçóþò åå äëÿ î÷èñòêè ìîòîðîâ ñâîèõ ãðóçîâèêîâ.
Âñå åùå õîòèòå áóòûëî÷êó Êîëû?

Ñòàáèëèçèpîâàëèñü òåìïû pîñòà ñïàäà pîññèéñêîé ýêîíîìèêè.

Çíà÷èò, òàêàÿ ñèòóàöèÿ â êëàññå: Ïðåïîäàâàòåëü (Ï) çàäàåò ó÷åíèêàì âîïðîñ:

  • Äåòè, êòî ìíå îòâåòèò: ÷òî âîçáóæäàåò ìóæ÷èíó?
    Êëàññ ìîë÷èò, îäèí Âîâî÷êà (Â) ñ ïåðâîé ïàðòû ðóêó òÿíåò:
  • Ìîæíî ÿ! Ìîæíî ÿ!
    (Ï) - ïîäîæäè, Âîâî÷êà!
    (Ï) Ñìîòðèò - êëàññ âñå ðàâíî ìîë÷èò…
    (Â) - Ìîæíî ÿ! Ìîæíî ÿ!
    (Ï) - ëàäíî, Âîâî÷êà, îòâå÷àé…
    Âîâî÷êà âñòàåò è ãîðäîñòüþ ïðîèçíîñèò - ÃÎËÀß ÁÀÁÀ!!!
    (Ï) - ÂÎÂÎ×ÊÀ!!! âîí èç êëàññà, è ÷òîáû áåç îòöà íå ïîÿâëÿëñÿ!!!
    Íà ñëåäóþùèé äåíü:
    (Ï) çàõîäèò â êëàññ, è ñìîòðèò òàì Âîâî÷êà ñèäèò.
    (Ï) - ÂÎÂÎ×ÊÀ, ÂÑÒÀÍÜ!!!
    ÿ æå òåáå ñêàçàë, ÷òîá áåç îòöà çäåñü áîëüøå íå ïîÿâëÿëñÿ!!! è ïî÷åìó òû
    ïåðåñåë íà ïîñëåäíþþ ïàðòó?!!
    (Â) åìó îòâå÷àåò :
  • À ìíå ïàïà ñêàçàë, åñëè âàñ ãîëûå áàáû íå âîçáóæäàþò, çíà÷èò, âû ÏÅÄÈÊ, è ïîýòîìó îí ñ âàìè íå õî÷åò èìåòü íèêàêèõ äåë!
    È ìíå îí âåëåë îò âàñ äåðæàòüñÿ ïîäàëüøå!!!

×åëîâå÷åñêàÿ ãëóïîñòü äàåò ïðåäñòàâëåíèå î áåñêîíå÷íîñòè.

Îòåö ñïðàøèâàåò ñûíà
Î-Íó êàê óñïåõè â øêîëå?
C-Îòëè÷íî! Êîíòðàêò ñ 5 êëàññîì ïðîäëåí åùå íà ãîä!

Âîçâðàùàåòñÿ ïîçäíî âå÷åðîì äåâóøêà äîìîé. Çàõîäèò â ïîäúåçä, à òàì ñòîèò ëèöî êàâêàçñêîé íàö-òè è ïèñàåò. “Îé, ìàìî÷êà…”-âñêðèêèâàåò îíà. “Íå áîéñÿ, äýâóøêà, ïðàõàäû, ÿ åãî äýðæó…”

Ðîòà!
Ðàâíÿéñü!
Òàê, çà*áèñü…

Îòñòàâèòü çà*áèñü!!!

Áîëüíèöà. Ìåäñåñòðà ïîäõîäèò ê äîêòîðó è ãîâîðèò:

  • Äîêòîð, áîëüíîìó èç 6-îé ïàëàòû âñå õóæå è õóæå. Äîêòîð ñ âîçìóùåíèåì îáúÿñíÿåò ìåäñåñòðå, ÷òî òàê ãîâîðèòü íåëüçÿ - ñëèøêîì ïåññèìèñòè÷íî.
  • Íàäî ãîâîðèòü òàê, - ïðîäîëæàåò äîêòîð, - áîëüíîé èç 6-îé ïàëàòû äóìàåò, ÷òî åìó âñå õóæå è õóæå. Íà ñëåäóþùèé äåíü ìåäñåñòðà îïÿòü ïîäõîäèò ê äîêòîðó:
  • Äîêòîð, áîëüíîé èç 6-îé ïàëàòû äóìàåò, ÷òî îí óìåð…

Ó ìóæèêà æåíà óøëà íà ïëÿæ è íå âåðíóëàñü. Îí çàÿâèë â ïîëèöèþ.
Ïîëèöåéñêèå ïðèøëè ÷åðç íåäåëþ.

  • Ó íàñ äëÿ Âàñ 3 íîâîñòè, õîðîøàÿ, ïëîõàÿ è âåëèêîëåïíàÿ.
  • Äàâàéòå ñíà÷àëà ïëîõóþ.
  • Âàøà æåíà óòîíóëà – ìû åå âûòàùèëè èç âîäû.
  • À êàêàÿ õîðîøàÿ?
  • Ìû ñ íåå ñîáðàëè âåäðî çäîðîâåííûõ ðàêîâ.
  • À êàêàÿ âåëèêîëåïíàÿ?
  • Çàâòðà ìû åå ñíîâà âûòàùèì è ïðèãëàøàåì Âàñ íà ïèâî!

Äåæóðÿò ìåíòû ïî ñâîåìó ó÷àñòêó è âäðóã âèäÿò — íà äåðåâå ÷åëîâåê ïîâåñèëñÿ. Äóìàþò, íàôèã íàì ýòè ïðîáëåìû, è ïåðåâåñèëè åãî íà äåðåâî â äðóãîì ðàéîíå. Òàì èäóò äâà ìåíòà, òîæå äåæóðÿò. Îäèí äðóãîìó:
— Ñìîòðè, îïÿòü îí çäåñü âèñèò!

Ïðèø¸ë ìóæ äîìîé ïîçäíî âå÷åðîì.
Æåíà ñïðàøèâàåò:

  • Òû ãäå áûë?
  • Ñ ñîñåäîì â øàõìàòû èãðàë.
  • À ïî÷åìó îò òåáÿ âîäêîé ïàõíåò?
  • À ÷òî, äîëæíî ïàõíóòü øàõìàòàìè?

Íà Ïòè÷üåì ðûíêå ìóæèê ïðîäà¸ò òð¸õ ïîïóãàåâ. Äâà ñèäÿò ó íåãî íà ïëå÷àõ, à îäèí íà ãîëîâå.
Íà âîïðîñ ñêîëüêî ñòîèò, ìóæ÷èíà îòâåòèë:

  • Íà ëåâîì ïëå÷å - 100$, îí çíàåò òðè ÿçûêà.
  • Íà ïðàâîì ïëå÷å - 200$, îí çíàåò òðè ÿçûêà è óìååò ñ÷èòàòü.
  • À íà ãîëîâå - 1000$ !!! ß íå çíàþ, ÷òî îí óìååò, íî ýòè äâîå íàçûâàþò åãî Øåôîì.

Çàãàäêà:
×òî òàêîå: âõîäèò ñóõèì, âûõîäèò âëàæíûì, äàðèò òåïëî è ðàäîñòü? Îòâåò: Ïàêåòèê ñ ÷àåì.

Ñåãîäíÿ íà ìàñêàðàä âñå ïðèøëè â ìàñêàõ:

  • Ñåðæ â ìàñêå Ëüâà;
  • Êîíñòàíòèí â ìàñêå Âîëêà;
  • Íàòàëüÿ â ìàñêå Ëèñû;
  • íàø àäìèíèñòðàòîð Âîôôêà â 255.255.255.0

 êàáèíåò õèðóðãà âáåãàåò ÷åëîâåê ñ âèëêîé â æèâîòå:

  • Äîêòîð! Ïîìîãèòå!
  • Hå ìîãó. Óæå 5 ÷àñîâ. Ìîé ðàáî÷èé äåíü çàêîí÷èëñÿ.
  • Hó ñäåëàéòå æå ÷òî-íèáóäü !!!
    Äîêòîð âûíèìàåò âèëêó èç æèâîòà è âòûêàåò â ãëàç.
  • Èäèòå ê îêóëèñòó, îí ïðèíèìàåò äî ñåìè.
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C++: after reading your last post you reminded me of “The Gremlins”… You know…
Your just like them (when they eat after midnight)…

And I am not american nor your friend…

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This forum needs a moderator…

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look, just ignore him. That’s all you have to do!!! DON’T EVER REPLY TO TROLL’S THREADS, no matter how compelled you feel.

argh

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I only see C++'es so called “Russian” posts as a huge pile of random ASCII characters (perhaps I should have answered the question “Do you want to install the “Moron” codepage?” with “Yes, hurt me plenty” but I refused to do so).

Oh well, I guess I have to state the obvious:

C++ has no clue about:

-OpenGL
-DirectX (Direct3D in particular)
-C/C++

and hence is making up stuff as he goes.

Conclusion:

He is nothing but a wannabe jerk who seeks attention to make his miserable live more interessting (if he would be clever, he would get lots of cash from M$ for posting crap like this).

Case closed.

And no, I am not from the US, nor even an native English speaker.

[This message has been edited by C-- (edited 07-03-2003).]

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C–: Just like I said before and C++: No, I’m not American, I’m from Sweden.

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Originally posted by C++:
Matt_weird!
×òî òàêîå TROLL? Ìîé ñëîâàðü ãîâîðèò ìíå ÷òî ýòî ÍÀÏÅÂÀËÎ. Íàâåðíîå ýòî ñëîâî èìååò äðóãîé ñìûñë. Ìîæåò áûòü áîëòóí? Êñòàòè, òû òàê ìíîãî êàòàåøü òåêñòà, ÷òî ìíå êàæåòñÿ òû TROLL`èøü.

I think i’ll be not replying to you on russian anymore, because if you think that if somebody here doesn’t understand russian – it’s their problems, then i think if you quite don’t understand english – it’s your problem then.

To answer your specific question about ‘TROLL’ word meaning: i think it translates to ‘ÒÐÎËÜ’. But i think in your particular case it means “muthabeeper”.

Originally posted by C++:
È åù¸. Çà÷åì èì íóæíû moderators?

Moderators are needed to delete your stuff. And to ban you off.

Now back to business:

Originally posted by C++:
Matt_weird!
Îòâåò2:
Äåëî â òîì, ÷òî âèäåîàäàïòåðû íå ïîääåðæèâàþò OpenGL íàïðÿìóþ íà àïïàðàòíîì óðîâíå. Ïîääåðæêà îñóùåñòâëÿåòñÿ ïîñðåäñòâîì äðàéâåðîâ HAL. Òàê, ÷òî äàííûå, ïîñûëàåìûå API`øíûìè ôóíêöèÿìè ïðåîáðàçóþòñÿ äðàéâåðàìè â ðîäíîé äëÿ âèäåîàäàïòåðà ôîðìàò. Èìåííî ïîýòîìó íå óäàåòñÿ äîñòè÷ü ìàêñèìàëüíûõ ïîêàçàòåëåé
ïðîèçâîäèòåëüíîñòè, óêàçûâàåìûõ ïðîèçâîäèòåëåì. Direct3D ðàáîòàåò íåìíîãî áûñòðåå, ò.ê. ýòî áîëåå “íèçêîóðîâíåâûé” ñòàíäàðò.

Fist of all, if you call everyone who posted you a reply anywhere is an “expert” and in the same time you don’t like what people post here, then i guess i was right when calling you a “muthabeeper”.

Both API’s are working through the HAL eventually(in fact, most of all other hardware stuff in windows works throgh the HAL:

“hardware abstraction layer (HAL)
A Windows NT executive component that provides platform-specific support for the Windows NT Kernel, I/O Manager, kernel-mode debuggers, and lowest-level device drivers. The HAL exports routines that abstract platform-specific hardware details about caches, I/O buses, interrupts, and so forth, and provides an interface between the platform’s hardware and the system software.”

Your so called experts wrote:“Direct3D works faster, as it is more “low-level” standart”

DING-DONG! WHOA! Look what i got here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/defaul…integration.asp
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnopen/html/msdn_opengl9.asp

From the picture shown in first URL you can notice that GDI doesn’t work through the HAL, threfore you could make a conclusion that it works somewhat faster than D3D. But it isn’t so.

Well, the picture in shown in second URL is a bit out of date, yes. But the client side is still the same though. I think in the first pic ms lied a bit putting the direct arrow to the DDI. OpenGL has an ICD, meanwhile Direct3D has Universal Driver in this place(provided by the videochip vendor) which provides a link to the DDI then.

Another thing: OpenGL API in ms implementation has OpenGL32.dll(or it’s token names for different OS families). But Direct3D API has many subsets in its interface, such as reference library, different libraries for different dx versions, and then also some DirectX helpers-solvers and stuff like that, etc. So in this case, which one works faster, huh??

Plus, don’t forget that Direct3D being a subset of DirectX is a OOP-based API, meanwhile OpenGL is pure C-based API – therefore pure C interface works faster anyway than C++ interface, as C++ is a subset of C programming interface.

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#define Random set of ASCII symbols:
Íàñ÷¸ò ìîäåðàòîðîâ - ýòî ïóñòîçâîíñòâî è òð¸ï. À íà ñ÷¸ò òîãî ÷òî ÿ ïèøó ïî ðóññêè - ýòî òû ïðàâ. Íå âñå æå èìåþò âîçìîæíîñòü ïðî÷åñòü ýòî (à çà ÷åì èì ÷èòàòü ýòîò ïîíîñ?).
Ãäå òû âûó÷èë ìîé ðîäíîé ÿçûê? Íàäî ñêàçàòü, çíàåøü òû åãî â ñîâåðøåíñòâå. Ïðè ïåðâîì çíàêîìñòâå ñ òîáîé ñîçäà¸òñÿ âïå÷àòëåíèå ÷òî òû ðîäèëñÿ èëè â Ðîññèè èëè îäíîé èç ñòðàí áûâøåãî ÑÑÑÐ. Îòêóäà òû?
#end
Tell me about yourself(Matt_weird), where are you from, how old are you, how many years you using OpenGL. It`s interesting.
What you can say about Direct3DX library(very-very bad library)? Why you learnt russian language? Russian - one of the worst languages in the world.

If somebody is not american - its only better (not joke). If somebody is not my friend - its his problem. (joke)

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Piss off.
If you want to babble mindlessly, find yourself an irc channel or something.

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C++ âîò âû óðîä!!!
C++ you freak!!!

There is its freak In each nations. C++ this freak in Russian nation. I not Russian, but I dialect in russian. I simply not pleasantly that because of such as C++ about Russian are called back much bad other nations. Russian good boys themselves but as it be spoken in family not without freak.

Òû ïàäëà Ðóññêóþ íàöèþ ïîçîðèøü çäåñü. Ñî ñâîèì äèðåêò 3Ä ïîøåë âîí êàíàëèÿ îòñþäà. Òàêèì êàê òû çäåñü íå ìåñòî. Òåáÿ óæå çäåñü íå õîòÿò ñëóøàòü. Òàê ÷òî ñâàëè à. Íå êðóòè ìîçãè. À òàê åñëè ÷å Äèðåêò 3Ä ôóôëî ïåðåä ÎÃËîì. Çíàé ýòî è íå îøèáàéñÿ. Ýòî òåáå ãîâîðþ ÿ. Òâîÿ ïîãèáåëü.

Forgive this idiot and do not judge on all russian so. Well?

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Sorry for bringing this back to the top and breaking my own vow. (it wont happen again I promise )

Forgive this idiot and do not judge on all russian so. Well?

I don’t think any of us, well I hope, are judging all Russians because of C++. That would be quite stupid, it’s obvious in all cultures we have our idiots. I know a TON of fellow americans who are complete morons that need a good kick in the ass. I for one do not judge all people of one culture just b/c there are a few that have gone astray. It’s ashame that some do though. But it can be an easy thing to do, unfortunately, believe me.

-SirKnight

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Óðà! Ìîäåðàòîðû çàðàáîòàëè!
Nothing important:

Originally posted by bozland:
[b]C++ âîò âû óðîä!!!
C++ you freak!!!

There is its freak In each nations. C++ this freak in Russian nation. I not Russian, but I dialect in russian. I simply not pleasantly that because of such as C++ about Russian are called back much bad other nations. Russian good boys themselves but as it be spoken in family not without freak.

Òû ïàäëà Ðóññêóþ íàöèþ ïîçîðèøü çäåñü. Ñî ñâîèì äèðåêò 3Ä ïîøåë âîí êàíàëèÿ îòñþäà. Òàêèì êàê òû çäåñü íå ìåñòî. Òåáÿ óæå çäåñü íå õîòÿò ñëóøàòü. Òàê ÷òî ñâàëè à. Íå êðóòè ìîçãè. À òàê åñëè ÷å Äèðåêò 3Ä ôóôëî ïåðåä ÎÃËîì. Çíàé ýòî è íå îøèáàéñÿ. Ýòî òåáå ãîâîðþ ÿ. Òâîÿ ïîãèáåëü.

Forgive this idiot and do not judge on all russian so. Well?[/b]

Òû ìåíÿ ñèëüíî íàïóãàë ñâîåé ôðàçîé “Ýòî òåáå ãîâîðþ ÿ. Òâîÿ ïîãèáåëü.”(íà ñàìîì äåëå)! ß ÷óòü áûëî íå íàëîæèë ñåáå â øòàíû ñèäÿ ïåðåä êîìïîì! Êàêîå òåáå äåëî äî êàêîé-íèáóäü òàì íàöèè åñëè òû æèâ¸øü â Óçáåêèñòàíå? Òû âåäü óçáåê ïî íàöèîíàëüíîñòè (íó è ñëàâà áîãó íå àìåðèêàíåö! Ýòî òû ìîëîäåö.). À Äèðåêò3Ä âîâñå íå ôóôëî. Äà è ÎïåíÃË òîæå íå õóæå. Íå âèäèøü ÿ òóò ðàçâëåêàþñü? À íà ñàìîì äåëå ÿ âîîáùå íèãäå íå ïëàíèðîâàë ðàçâëåêàòüñÿ (÷åñòíîå áëàãîðîäíîå ñëîâî /èç óñò çàñðàíöà ïî èìåíè ß/). Ìåíÿ çäåñü îáîñðàëè ðàçî÷åê òàê, ÷òî ÿ íåäåëþ õîäèë ñ ïëîõèì íàñòðîåíèåì è ñ òåõ ïîð, êàê âèäèøü, îòðûâàþñü ïî ïîëíîé ïðîãðàììå(à ïðîãðàììà ñ ïîääåðæêîé Äèðåêò3Ä). À òî ÷òî òóò ïèøóò ïðî ìåíÿ ÿ, ê ñîæàëåíèþ, âñåðü¸ç ïðèíÿòü íå ìîãó è ÷èòàþ ýòî ñ áîëüøîé èðîíèåé (õîòÿ ïåðèîäè÷åñêè ïèøó ñþäà ñåðü¸çíûå âîïðîñû îò äðóãîãî èìåíè).

P.S.
“Òåáÿ óæå çäåñü íå õîòÿò ñëóøàòü.”
Ýòî íàäî æå òàê(!) ñäâèíóòüñÿ ÷òîáû ñëûøàòü òî ÷òî ÿ ïèøó! Çàìå÷àòåëüíî ïðîñòî! Æåëòûé äîì ïî òåáå ïëà÷åò.

P.P.S.
Äà! Â ñåìüå íå áåç óðîäà. Òû óâåðåí ÷òî òû íå óðîä ñðåäè ñâîåé íàöèîíàëüíîñòè, íàöèñò?(Ùþòêà! Íà ñàìîì äåëå òû õîðîøèé ÷óâàê!)

“Russian good boys themselves”
Íàâåðíîå òåáå ïîïàëèñü õîðîøèå Russians. Çíàé ýòî è íå çàáûâàé. Âñÿêèå áûâàþò. Áûâàþò òàêèå ÷òî áàøêó òåáå èëè ìíå îòîðâóò áåç ïîâîäà, èçíàñèëóþò è íà êîë ïîñàäÿò, ïîäîæãóò ÷åãî-íèáóäü, ïîìîãóò òåððîðèñòàì ïðèåõàòü â ÑÏÁ çà ÿùèê âîäêè! À ÿ âîò ïàäëà ïîëó÷àåòñÿ (õîòÿ íèêîìó íè÷åãî ïëîõîãî íå ñäåëàë, íè÷åãî íè ó êîãî íèêîãäà íå óêðàë è ò.ä.). È ýòî ÿ íàöèþ ïîçîðþ (ìîæåò áûòü òîëüêî ñåáÿ)? Àáûäíî!

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Äà íåò òû îøèáñÿ ÿ íå óçáåê ÿ òàòàðèí. Äà è â Ðîññèè âñå äåòñòâî è ìîëîäîñòü ïðîæèë â Êðàñíîäàðå. Òàê ÷òî ðóññêèõ çíàþ, âñòðå÷àëñÿ. Ïîêà ðóññêèå ìíå íè÷åãî ïëîõîãî íå ñäåëàëè è ìíå íðàâèòñÿ ýòà íàöèÿ. À òû èõ ïîçîðèøü ïåðåä óðêàìè. Ïðîñòî âåñü ìèð óæå ðóññêèõ íå íàâèäèò èç-çà òàêèõ êàê òû. Õîòÿ íåíàâèäèòü íåçà÷òî.
Êàêîé êàéô äëÿ òåáÿ çäåñü òîð÷àòü è ïðèêàëûâàòüñÿ íàä óðêàìè? Îíè æå âñå ðàâíî íàøèõ ïðèêîëîâ íå ïîíèìàþò. Òðàòèøü âðåìÿ è èíòðåíåò íà ýòó äðåáåäåíü. Òû ëó÷øå ïîìîã áû êîìó íèáóäü, ïîäåëèëñÿ ñâîèì îïûòîì à åñëè íåò îïÿòà ïîñëóøàé ÷å ëþäè ãîâîðÿò íå âñþ æèçíü æå áóäåøü õåðüíåé ìàÿòñÿ. Òû íå äóìàé ÿ òåáÿ íå ó÷ó æèçíè ïðîñòî æàëêî òåáÿ.
Íó áûâàé. Ìîæ êîãäà íèáóäü âñòðåòèìñÿ ïèâêà ïîïüåì.

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I think we can all agree that:

[ul][li] C++ is a jack@ss.[] All Russians are not jack@sses.[] All Americans are not idiots.[*] This thread is pointless.[/ul][/li]
Now there’s nothing more that needs to be said in this thread, and anyone who posts below the dotted line is a moron. Die, thread, Die!

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 äåðåâíþ ê äåäóøêå:

Originally posted by bozland:
Äà íåò òû îøèáñÿ ÿ íå óçáåê ÿ òàòàðèí. Äà è â Ðîññèè âñå äåòñòâî è ìîëîäîñòü ïðîæèë â Êðàñíîäàðå. Òàê ÷òî ðóññêèõ çíàþ, âñòðå÷àëñÿ. Ïîêà ðóññêèå ìíå íè÷åãî ïëîõîãî íå ñäåëàëè è ìíå íðàâèòñÿ ýòà íàöèÿ. À òû èõ ïîçîðèøü ïåðåä óðêàìè. Ïðîñòî âåñü ìèð óæå ðóññêèõ íå íàâèäèò èç-çà òàêèõ êàê òû. Õîòÿ íåíàâèäèòü íåçà÷òî.
Êàêîé êàéô äëÿ òåáÿ çäåñü òîð÷àòü è ïðèêàëûâàòüñÿ íàä óðêàìè? Îíè æå âñå ðàâíî íàøèõ ïðèêîëîâ íå ïîíèìàþò. Òðàòèøü âðåìÿ è èíòðåíåò íà ýòó äðåáåäåíü. Òû ëó÷øå ïîìîã áû êîìó íèáóäü, ïîäåëèëñÿ ñâîèì îïûòîì à åñëè íåò îïÿòà ïîñëóøàé ÷å ëþäè ãîâîðÿò íå âñþ æèçíü æå áóäåøü õåðüíåé ìàÿòñÿ. Òû íå äóìàé ÿ òåáÿ íå ó÷ó æèçíè ïðîñòî æàëêî òåáÿ.
Íó áûâàé. Ìîæ êîãäà íèáóäü âñòðåòèìñÿ ïèâêà ïîïüåì.

Íà ñ÷¸ò ïèâêà. Èçâèíè. Íå ïüþ äàæå ïèâî (è òåáå íå ñîâåòóþ). ß òîæå ïðîòèâ òàòàð íè÷åãî íå èìåþ (õîòÿ ðàçâå ìîæíî ñóäèòü î òàòàðàõ(è íå òîëüêî) ïî íåìíîãî÷èñëåííûì çíàêîìûì? Íî ÿ óâåðåí - îíè íàâåðíÿêà õîðîøèå.). Ïðî òî ÷òî íàäî äåëèòüñÿ îïûòîì - ñ òîáîé ñîãëàñåí.  ýòîì ôîðóìå ìíîãî íåîòâå÷åííûõ çàïðîñîâ íóæäàþùèõñÿ ïîëüçîâàòåëåé â òî âðåìÿ êàê íà ñàìóþ òóïóþ òåìó ïðèõîäÿò ñîòíè ìàññèâíûõ îòâåòîâ. Æàëåòü ìåíÿ íå ñòîèò ò.ê. ÿ íå ÿâëÿþñü àëêîãîëèêîì, êóðèëüùèêîì, íàðêîìàíîì èëè åù¸ êåì-íèáóäü óáîãèì. Ðàññêàæè ëó÷øå î òîì ÷òî òû óæå ñîçäàë ñ ïîìîùüþ OpenGL è ïî÷åìó òàê íå ëþáèøü Direct3D (õîòÿ ýòî î÷åíü äàæå õîðîøàÿ øòóêà, îñîáåííî Direct3DX (X-extension)). Æäó îòâåò. À åù¸ ëó÷øå - ïèøè íà mail (sch56@hotbox.ru), à òî óðêè íåäîâîëüíû ÷òî òóò íå ïî òåìå ïèøåòñÿ.
P.S.
Êàê ïîíÿòü äåòñòâî è ìîëîäîñòü? Ñêîëüêî Âàì ëåò? Íàâåðíîå ëåò 40? À çíà÷èò ó Âàñ îáøèðíûé îïûò â OpenGL âåäü ýòî ñôåðà Âàøèõ èíòåðåñîâ. Çíà÷èò ÿ ñ íåòåðïåíèåì æäó Âàøåãî mail.
P.P.S.
(!!!ïðîñòî îôèãèòåëüíî!!!)
Òîëüêî èñòèííûå íàöèñòû ïèøóò ÷òî êòî-òî óðîä, à âñÿ íàöèÿ âðîäå íè÷åãî. Íîðìàëüíûé ÷åë. íå áóäåò îãîâàðèâàòü òî, ÷òî îí íåíàâèäèò êîãî-íèáóäü íå ïîòîìó ÷òî òîò êàêîé-òî íàöèîíàëüíîñòè (íå ïðàâäà ëè?).
(ÁËÈÍ! Òóò, êàæåòñÿ, âñå òàêèå!)
Æäó îòâåò. Âñ¸. Êàïóò.
(sch56@hotbox.ru)

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Originally posted by Aaron:
[b]I think we can all agree that:

  • [li] C++ is a jack@ss.[] All Russians are not jack@sses.[] All Americans are not idiots.[*] This thread is pointless.

Now there’s nothing more that needs to be said in this thread, and anyone who posts below the dotted line is a moron. Die, thread, Die!

[/b]

No, no, Aaron! Americans are stupid. Yes. Very-very-very-…
for(int i = 0; i < Infinity; i++)
{
-very-stupid
}
STPID. You American (ìàòåðíîå ñëîâå÷êî)!
Example:
-Fu_ck you!
or just:
-You american!

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next time just ignore his first post.
Once you know how to do so, you can go further and ignore the others.
When you’re alone, you can’t have dumb conversation about dumb subjects, you can’t troll, you can’t insult anybody…

my 2c

[This message has been edited by Guardian (edited 08-24-2003).]

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guess what, C++? i haven’t checked this forum untill today, i had ****loads of programming so guess even got sick of it even to talk about it…

…and what is the first thing i see in here?! your ****ing thread! the thread that you managed to turn into racist nonsense. and that is probably because you ran out of consistent arguments for your own topic (besides, i doubt you even had this kind of it…)

you’re just like a curse or sort of a damn that follows this board, whatever…

don’t you understand: people are using OpenGL simply because they want so, and why don’t you leave it at that? If you want to use Direct3D – feel free to do so. I believe this is not the matter of what is better or worse. And i don’t have anything against D3D, except that Bill Gates is virtually doing all the stuff for you his own way. Pretty much of the stuff that you can do on your own using OpenGL, not only because you can do it better, but also that you can do it your own way, i.e. you have much more freedom using OpenGL.

And unless you have some reasonable arguments against this, you’ll be looking like complete idiot while continuing to post pointless racist crap over here. Not that i care though. Have a “good” time talkin to yourself.

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Can you please… STOP FEEDING THE TROLL?