I remember you too dave. 
And DFrey, and Eric, and Tom Nuydens, and rts, and SirKnight, and LordKronos, and of course the nVidia guys Matt and Cass, and I’m sure there are others around still who’s names I just can’t think of atm, so don’t feel bad if you were excluded from the list.
I don’t remember you, Deiussum - but then again, I live my life like that guy out of Momento.
However, that doesn’t justify how some people behave - knackered, if you read this, please take offense - and I’m with you on that matter, Deiussum.
Yes my friends, life is hard being a opengl board answering guy. So give us a break when we use bad language to releive stress.
V-man
Bloody hell! I missed that one.
I’m not so much offended, but more bemused.
Some facts about me, that may help you to understand why I behave the way I do:-
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I know a lot about graphics API’s, but I’m not a brilliant mathematician.
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I’m making a nice living out of the API knowledge.
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I really enjoy graphics programming, it accounts for about 90% of my life - my girlfriend does not really appreciate this, unfortunately.
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I like people who also enjoy graphics programming, and put a lot of effort into making things look good. I also like my girlfriend, however.
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I have a 56k modem at home, and a crappy ISDN link at work, shared by what seems like a million people - hence, every click counts.
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I’m a little grumpy sometimes - usually from lack of sleep.
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I have little patience with lazy people.
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I respect and admire many on this forum.
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I like to help when I can.
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I get drawn into arguments with people who don’t agree with the way I phrase my replies. I wish I could just ignore them, but I’m weak in this way.
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I call a spade a spade, and don’t concern myself too much with other peoples feelings - this may be a negative point, but my boss thinks otherwise.
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I don’t think I’m responsible for making this forum an unfriendly place - heck, I’m a friendly guy, with lots of friends
Hope that didn’t sound too self-indulgent, but I feel misunderstood.
knackered:
As I directly attacked you, let me explain myself please.
I too like to think I know a damn lot about the OpenGL API. I’ve been proven wrong a few days ago. shrugs
Whatever, I came here because of a few questions. These were driver bugs, so I stay here mainly for being able to answer stuff. I think everyone here should know why we read and post to this forum.
(That would be my most important line for today)
I didn’t mean to say “You, Sir Knackered, are an ass!” and I didn’t. I merely disliked some of your behaviour. The thing about the gas station employee and
Tosser
weren’t appropriate and I think you’ve already realized that. And this way it’s perfectly ok. I’m not on a holy crusade here. I’ve made behavioural mistakes myself. There’s no anger or disrespect coming your way from my side of things.
Think of it more like a reminder
Seriously, no hard feelings.
Now, let’s get the helpful answer rolling, shall we
Tosser’s a mild insult and you’ve taken it out of context (which is unfair, as you of all people should understand, zeckensack - see above).
As I mentioned in that thread, I only insulted him after he replied to my helpful response with distain and arrogance - absolutely no gratitude for me actually replying to him with a suggestion. I’m not being paid to help him, so he should show some gratitude.
My response was this:-
I don’t mean to offend you, but please post that question in the beginners forum.
You have major problems in the way you’re doing things.
Hint of the day: you have to draw transparent objects AFTER opaque ones, and they must be drawn in strict order from the far plane to the near plane, with glDepthMask(GL_FALSE);
Wasn’t I nice, everyone?
Reasonable? He does have major problems in the way he’s doing things…I stand by that, and it’s not an insult, more a warning.
His reply:-
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>>Wasn’t I nice, everyone?
actually Not really.
From then on, he was fair game. I exercised restrained wit - I could have been a lot more aggressive.
Anyway, thank you for forgiving me, zeckensack
knackered, don’t worry about it, you were completely justified in calling the guy a tosser, in my opinion.
Just offering some support, not condoning insulting people right, left and center.
Mmmm, I’ve always been under the impression that ‘tosser’ had some seriously insulting quality to it, one that’s not regularly listed in dictionaries. Given that English is not my first language, I might have seen a bit too much venom in that word.
Peace and stuff
from my dictionary
tosser aint in it but ‘toss off’ is
what was the origin of that word i wonder
btw tosser means wank.r thus hardly offensive at all.
I like the way this thread is going - what is an acceptable level of insult for someone being ungrateful?
C*nt would be totally out of order, and I reserve that for face to face confrontations.
d0rb13, j00 sp3l “l33t” r0n6 !!1!
Shut it, c*nt face.
Oops!
I think this thread is getting a bit out of order. Please save the profanities for the playground.
Thanks,
Nutty
Originally posted by knackered:
I like the way this thread is going - what is an acceptable level of insult for someone being ungrateful?
C*nt would be totally out of order, and I reserve that for face to face confrontations.
How about something mild like igorant/ungrateful/stupid jerk/idiot/nuthead?
Or simply “Stop wasting my time.”?
Nutty, it was supposed to be funny. Funny? Remember? Bill Hicks etc.?
I tried to lighten things up, that’s all - if my censored language offended you, then that’s not my problem.
Knackered, what does an ignorant tossing **** have to do with OpenGL?
Do you think it’s funny to see a wanker in fully hardware accelerated 3D?
People are coming here for OpenGL, not things like that remember?
You were saying it yourself, and now you’re doing it yourself.
Please, stop with the nonsense.
Sigh, why am I actually posting this, it doesn’t help…
I hope I didn’t offend anyone with the uncensored language…
Oh and welcome back Deiussum!
(you probably don’t know me, but I do remember you)
Humour is outlawed now?
It certainly sounds like it.
I shall stick to opengl from now on, even in offtopic threads like this one.
I agree with Deiussum. This forum was once more friendly.
However, I still think that there a lot of good people around here that want to help and discuss OpenGL and related topics.
Oh my, what have I started.
knackered, I at least took your above response as an attempt at humor. I found Nutty’s response humorous as well, though I’m not sure if that was intended or not.
Richard, glad to see yet another familiar name still around. Same goes for you kieranatwork. (kieran, You might not remember me mainly because I probably spent more time helping people in the beginner form and more time lurking in the advanced form than posting here.)
Ugh. I’m falling into my old habits of reading the forms at work. It’s sooo much more interesting than reading these specification documents (which have nothing to do with graphics, much less OpenGL), though.